shoeguy Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 I just got back from my first road trip where I put almost 1,000 kilometres on the car diving from Toronto to Ottawa and back , the bulk of all the driving being highway driving. The fuel economy as registered on the dash was 9.2 litres per gallon which is significantly better than my MKX , which delivered at best for the same drive 11.4. The car I will say seemed to have a bit more wind noise around the from the front of the car, yet that could have been as it was vert windy. The car itself seemed to be more buttoned down to the road with a bit more road feel than the MKX yet was much smother a drive and quieter than the MKX. The adaptive cruise control with lane keeping tends to be a little twitchy, I did turn it off and kept only the cruise on. The 2.0 litre engine in my car has a bit of a growl when you hit the gas pedal , my MKX with the 3.7 was a bit smoother. All in all a terrific highway car , and city car as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 What's your impression of the 2.0L vs. the 3.7L? We have the 3.7L in the MKX but I had the 2.0LEB in my Fusion Titanium and have the 3.5LEB in my F150. I much preferred the 2.0LEB as it had more torque off the line (as does my F150). With the 3.7L it feels like I have to give it twice the throttle to get going and then it still takes a few seconds. I guess I'm spoiled by the almost instant torque on the EBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeguy Posted April 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 To me both engines have their positive and negative points. I must say that I would never buy a car because of fuel economy , but yeah what a difference. In the MKX I would do the one way trip Ottawa from Toronto and the car used according to the fuel gauge 3/4 tank, with the 2.0 was just a hair over 1/2. Which again using the meter on the car was 9.2 , VS 11.4 , A VERY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. The extra torque is a difference in the 2.0 , yet I do find some turbo lag, so if I need to get away fast I do think about it for a split second. The 2.0 has a bit of the 4cylinder engine vibration at idle, the 3.7 was typical v6 smooth. Overall the car when on the road driving is smoother to drive , more buttoned down and a tad quitter than the MKX. The Continental tires are a huge improvement over the Hankook that were original equipment on the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 I don’t think it’s turbo lag - it’s probably the electronic throttle control programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKXMark Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 The 2.0T has pretty much the same torque as the 3.7. The 3.7 in the MKX struggles, but it has to carry an extra 350 pounds or so compared to the 2.0 in my MKZ so it's not apples to apples. The 2.0 feels more torquey off the line for sure. akirby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkx2go Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 Shoeguy, were you doing the speed limit on the 401 or 120k? Average fuel sounds good...I ordered my Nautilus Reserve with the 2.0 as well... JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeguy Posted April 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 I was doing about 110-115 on Friday on the way there as it was pouring rain almost the entire way. On the way home on Sunday afternoon I was doing a solid 120 almost the entire way. Once I hit Oshawa it was 110- 115. The car only has 500 k on it when I hit the road as well , it was not even broke in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkx2go Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 Nice....I can't wait to get mine. JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeguy Posted April 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, mkx2go said: Nice....I can't wait to get mine. JD When is yours expected ? Have you gone over to blue oval news to get your build date , and or window sticker if when it is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkx2go Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 My dealer gave me the Vin number he said build date is the week of Jun17th, yes blue oval confirmed the date...The window sticker is not available yet. I assume once It gets closer to the date...Did you get the 22way seats? JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 21 hours ago, MKXMark said: The 2.0T has pretty much the same torque as the 3.7. But it comes in at a much lower RPM. Gurgeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeguy Posted April 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, mkx2go said: My dealer gave me the Vin number he said build date is the week of Jun17th, yes blue oval confirmed the date...The window sticker is not available yet. I assume once It gets closer to the date...Did you get the 22way seats? JD No , I did not get the 22 way seats. As much as I enjoy a good massage , I could not justify the $$$, as well I enjoyed the seats in my MKX except for them being a little on the hard side, so I was good to go. Window sticker will not be available till about a week before build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKXMark Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, akirby said: But it comes in at a much lower RPM. Back in the day the turbo would have nothing at low RPM, how things have improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MKXMark said: Back in the day the turbo would have nothing at low RPM, how things have improved. Modern turbos have better materials but they're also pretty small which allows them to build boost very quickly at low RPM. The tradeoff is they run out of steam around 5500 rpm. I'll take the low end torque any day for every day driveability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTMY911 Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 4 hours ago, shoeguy said: No , I did not get the 22 way seats... That is the only option that I would not get again. Even in the low setting, I find it too rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkabout Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 The massage feature is pretty useless, imo. I like the adjustability of the seats though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 18 hours ago, shoeguy said: No , I did not get the 22 way seats. As much as I enjoy a good massage , I could not justify the $$$, as well I enjoyed the seats in my MKX except for them being a little on the hard side, so I was good to go. Window sticker will not be available till about a week before build. I think you'll really like the Nautilus seats. I find them much softer than the seats in an MKX loaner I had for a week while they worked to fix a factory audio problem. The seat bolsters are also a little bit lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Gurgeh said: I think you'll really like the Nautilus seats. I find them much softer than the seats in an MKX loaner I had for a week while they worked to fix a factory audio problem. The seat bolsters are also a little bit lower. This is my main issue with our MKX. The seats are plenty comfortable but the bottom is just a tad too small for my big butt. I’d still prefer an Explorer or Aviator for more room but wife insists she likes the Nautilus size. If the next gen is a bit larger with better seats I can probably live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkabout Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 akirby - I test drove lots of cars this weekend: Ford Edge, Volvo XC60, BMW X3, Nautilus, and Audi Q5 (which, in all honesty, was less of a drive and more of a sit in the vehicle for a long time). The Nautilus was not only more comfy than my MKX, it's seats were better than any of the other vehicles - with the exception of the volvo. Lincoln has stepped up and fixed that problem. Also, and this could be my imagination, but I think they've fixed the less-than-impressive seat cooling. At least in the car I drove, it worked quite well. Gurgeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 ...and just today I took my Nautilus for its first road trip, the three and a half hour drive from where I live in Maryland to the beach town of Chincoteague, VA. Finally got the chance to run the Naut's driver's assistance features through the paces. First off, it is a wonderfully comfortable vehicle -- smooth ride, great seats, very nice cockpit ergonomics. It also a spirited get up and go with nimble (for its size) and predictable handling. The thing that really shined was the adaptive cruise control (ACC). It is more of an advance from regular cruise control than cruise control is from traditional highway driving. I can't compare it to ACC systems used by other makers, as today was the first time I've used such a system. Once on the highway in reasonable traffic and you turn on the system there is pretty much no reason to turn it off or adjust it (unless the speed limit changes) until you arrive. With normal cruse control you are constantly fiddling it on and off or having to dial down cruise speeds as you approach slower traffic. With ACC as you approach slower traffic your car slows, keeping whatever following distance you have chosen, then speeds back up to your target speed as traffic picks up. But want to change lanes to get around the pokey driver ahead? Just turn on your left blinker and the car immediately speeds up allowing you to change lanes and get around him. There were no false positives. Never once did it fail to recognize a motorcycle or think a car in a lane next to me was actually ahead of me as the road curved. The lane centering feature works almost as well (a couple of times it got a little confused as a lane divided). But it is a lot less of a wow. It takes a good bit to get used to as well. You have to keep your hands on the wheel but let it do its think. I actually found it a little distracting, but I might just need more time to acclimate. When I drive home Monday I'll probably turn it off and just use lane keeping and see which I like better. One more thing. I really like how Lincoln has set up the steering wheel controls. Other cars I've had used controls on a dedicated steering column stalk, and while driving they are just so hard to see, figure out and use. The on/off for lane centering and the adjustment for following distance were particularly easy to use. Oh, and for the whole trip, including the first half hour on the DC beltway in congested, sometimes stop and go traffic, I averaged 29.2 mpg with the 2.7tt engine MKXMark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Did you try using the ACC in the stop and go traffic? I have used it several times and the more I use it the more confident It becomes. At first you are quite wary that the car is going to stop in time but it always does. I use the ACC almost all the time now, both on the highway and in city traffic driving. Also on the one road trip I have taken so far I used the lane centering feature and found it to be adequate and lets you relax some on the drive. Just a light touch on the steering wheel keeps it from nagging you. Gurgeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkx2go Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Shoeguy how is the gas mileage around town in TO? JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeguy Posted May 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 According to the readout on the dash it was appx 13.0 . Take that with a grain of salt , as this was only the first tank of fuel , and a partial second prior to my road trip, where I put miles on the car and have some break in on the engine. The car has been sitting on the driveway at home as I am catching rays on vacation for two weeks. When I get home I am going to fill it up and see where it sits. I will be able to tell you better then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 My around town gas mileage (I'm still in the break in period too) is often similar to Shoeguy's but I find it all depends on how I want to drive it. If I keep it in D mode and baby it like a church lady I get high teens. If I keep it in S mode and really enjoy the car's fantastic torque mid-teens is all I get. I finally found the perfect solution. I toggle to the power distribution graphic on the trip computer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 After about 7500 miles, mostly local driving on hilly, curvy roads with a speed limit of 40 to 45 MPH, my mileage has been in the low to mid 20's. My driving style is not like the church lady but I seldom use sport mode. My style is to engage the ACC as soon as possible and let the computer do the rest. I just watch and steer and enjoy the ride. My Nautilus Reserve has the 2.0T engine which I find more than adequate for me. Gurgeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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