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Any news on 2021 Nautilus changes like HUD or increase in dash info screen size. Hard finding anything news worthy on the internet. Corsair and Aviator seem to be what Lincoln is concentrating on for all

selling. I'm sure no outward appearance is planned but wheel options would be a big plus. My 2 yr lease on 2019 Nautilus Reserve is up in November and would like to stay with Nautilus. Got one of the earliest Nautilus and had a few problems "out of the gate" but dealership & eventually Ford Co. handled them okay.   

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The only recent news that I considered to be substantive re: the '21 Nautilus was a photo of a model displayed for the Chinese market with a modified lower front fascia and a few remarks indicating that there were few if any interior changes. Details relating to possible options, e.g. wheels, etc., were absent.

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No significant changes expected for 21 or 22.   Should have a totally new one for 2023 model year.

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Eight model years (2016-2023) of the MKX cum Nautilus with only a new front end (basically) to distinguish them? That would make Lincoln's midsize 2-row more than just a little long in the tooth. Even with my fondness of my early MKX, I could lose patience waiting until late 2022 for a fresh replacement.

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28 minutes ago, Cosmos36 said:

Eight model years (2016-2023) of the MKX cum Nautilus with only a new front end (basically) to distinguish them? That would make Lincoln's midsize 2-row more than just a little long in the tooth. Even with my fondness of my early MKX, I could lose patience waiting until late 2022 for a fresh replacement.


They diverted resources to other new vehicles, as evidenced by the lack of unique powertrains and other cost cutting.

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Yes, I agree with all. Lincoln has a captured market with the Nautilus (MKX) if your looking for a 2 row, average wheelbase and a great engine in the 2.7 V6. I was a GM follower for years and believe me they have nothing in this category to match up to Nautilus. Little early to start my search but good to hear others take on this. Thanks.   

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One of the primary incentives that encouraged me to purchase the MKX was the superb (and exclusive) engineering technology featured in the 2.7L 'nano' engine. Although Lincoln's 3.0L is largely a bored & stroked clone of the 2.7L, it differs significantly with its aluminum block. My vote goes to the smaller engine's compacted graphite iron block.

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I'm waiting for the next generation unless the Genesis GV80 would deliver big time.  As I type you can not even "build one" on their website so who knows what are the option, cost and so on.

 

Like on major a$$hole always says; we'll see.

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Within a price range of ~ $49K-72K including 10 trim levels, 2 drivetrain choices, and a 3rd-row option, it'll be fun pricing a GV80 for purchase.

Genesis has earned top level dependability and service awards with prices well below Mercedes (who used to own shares of the Korean company).

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5 years (60K miles) total coverage.  The @ Home Service you need to be within 25 Miles of the dealwership.

  Should be the same South of the border.

 

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The Build & Price is open in Canada.  The starting price is what I paid for my fully loaded 16 MKX.

 

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Not a real B & P, 4 trims with an all inclusive price.  Only choose is the Exterior/Interior colors.

 

Multiply the CDN price by .75 to get the US price.  Start at $49K USD

 

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Is the standard model 2.5T without AWD going to be available in Canada?

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I doubt it.  Just like the MKX or Nautilus, only AWD in Canada.

 

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A couple of changes between 2019 and 2020.  The price went up with the options I have on my 2019 by almost $4,000, and with the options that I would want, you have no choice to not have a trailer package, which I had on my '16 MKX, but not on my '19 because I sold my boat to a friend.  I still don't like the dark gray and black coating on the wheels, all they would have to do is offer the same style wheel with a silver coating where that dark coating is now..just looks like brake dust. When it is time to trade I may have to buy a Cadillac, Buick or even a Ford to get shiny wheels that don't look dirty.  I guess I could swap the shiny wheels I have on my '19 to the next one, but why should I have to do that with no options from Lincoln?

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I was very surprised at the fully loaded $85K CAD price tag on the GV80, although I am intrigued by it. Thought Genesis would be the ‘value’ proposition!
 

I’ve had my Aviator (fully loaded $88K) since January (ordered last June!!) and while I have less than 2,000 km on it, I am thoroughly unimpressed Lincoln can’t screw a car together any better than that. Lease after lease I keep hoping for improvement and still keep coming away disappointed.
 

Powertrain-wise, however, it’s amazing!  And the air suspension with road preview, wow!  We are living in interesting automotive times!

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11 hours ago, Adam said:

 

I’ve had my Aviator (fully loaded $88K) since January (ordered last June!!) and while I have less than 2,000 km on it, I am thoroughly unimpressed Lincoln can’t screw a car together any better than that. Lease after lease I keep hoping for improvement and still keep coming away 


It’s the Chicago plant.  Definitely Ford’s worst plant.  After the Explorer/Aviator launch debacle they replaced the plant manager.  Hopefully it’s better now.

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Funny story about the  Chicago plant.  When I first started working in high schools, we could take students on local factory trips.  I took a group there in the early 70's.  As we were watching the cars come off the line, there was one car that just dropped the entire front bumper and had to be quickly moved out of the way.  You all probably remember how big those early 70's bumpers were.

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Looks like it wouldn't take long to add up to 70+K with adding options. Starts @ 60K with a V6 unless I read wrong. Nice vehicle. Still waiting for news on 2021Nautilus which is probably 6 weeks out yet. Dealership tells me they don't know anything either. Should I believe that? 

 

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54 minutes ago, Bravo27 said:

Looks like it wouldn't take long to add up to 70+K with adding options. Starts @ 60K with a V6 unless I read wrong. Nice vehicle. Still waiting for news on 2021Nautilus which is probably 6 weeks out yet. Dealership tells me they don't know anything either. Should I believe that? 

 


Order bank doesn’t open until 10/23 so your dealer is being truthful.  Order guide will be out around the same time.

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Thanks. This is the place for update information.

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On ‎6‎/‎6‎/‎2020 at 8:30 AM, Cosmos36 said:

Within a price range of ~ $49K-72K including 10 trim levels, 2 drivetrain choices, and a 3rd-row option, it'll be fun pricing a GV80 for purchase.

Genesis has earned top level dependability and service awards with prices well below Mercedes (who used to own shares of the Korean company).

And now it appears there will be a GV70 available in late 2021 (as a 2022 model) which has targeted Lincoln's Nautilus and similar competitors. It will soon appear on U.S. highways in complete camouflage as a year-long teaser, including a code image to photoscan for further info.

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Job 1 has been pushed out to 1/23/2021.

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Job 1 pushed out that much is somewhat surprising to me with the new dash photos posted awhile back. I realize this is not a final production line photo. Seems to be all over the industry as I hear the new MDX is pushed into Feb. 2021. Still think Nautilus has a captured market with 2.7 V6, 2 row and a good value on what you get. Guess I agree that maybe the future Nautilus will be in the BEV's family. Funny thing is the my dealership doesn't know as much as this form does. I'll stay tuned here. 

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