Cosmos36 Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Walter Chan...can we get back to your MKX fuel mileage forecasts in lieu of diversions re: your 2010 X3 Bimmer trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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akirby Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Different tires/wheels, different platform, more crash protection, more features. I don't think the curb weights are exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisguy159 Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 These annoying and pointless arguments and comments rutinely are annoying and ruin the forum. Discussion of swapping out engines unreal mpg numbers, 2018.9 etc are all distracting and take away from what this should be. I wish you hadn't bought the mkx, if you actually did. MKXMark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkabout Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Walt, you're a good guy but you're being ridiculous again. The EPA on the 3.7 is 16/23. With the six speed tranny and no automatic stop, it's one of the least efficient vehicles on the road. It's a gas guzzler. The are also real world tests all over the Web and on youtube. Your real world mpg will be between 18 and 19 overall, like everybody else is getting. You're not a better more efficient driver than everybody else posting here. And, you can break the laws of thermodynamics. Unlike you, we all own and drive MKXs and know what fuel economy to expect. So continually posting these absurd estimates that we all know to be untrue will not impress anybody. I am optimistic that Ford is about to put some real "eco" into their FI engines (which are glorious drivetrains otherwise). I'm encouraged by the great numbers akirby is getting with his pickup. In every other respect those engines are just glorious to drive. Honestly, I'm tempted to lease another just because I love the engine so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 What I've noticed with the F150 is that it cruises at 1200 rpm around 45-50 mph even going up hills with very little downshifting - stays in 10 most of the time. That plus the auto start/stop really helps with mpg. A smaller engine would hav to run higher rpm in most cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkabout Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Smaller engines can bring a few problems. One of the other issues is that they achieve their power through high compression. That inevitably means that you have to buy premium gas, which I hate doing on principal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltcmusic Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) Edited July 9, 2018 by waltcmusic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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enigma-2 Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Want better gas milage? Drive as of you've got a raw egg between your shoe and the accelerator. Drive at a constant speed and coast longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKXMark Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 These annoying and pointless arguments and comments rutinely are annoying and ruin the forum. Discussion of swapping out engines unreal mpg numbers, 2018.9 etc are all distracting and take away from what this should be. I wish you hadn't bought the mkx, if you actually did. Agreed, why don't you actually acquire an MKX before talking it up. I also doubt it's going to happen based on your posting history here and elsewhere. Some of us worked all our lives to be able to afford a luxury car and this pretty much makes a mockery of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltcmusic Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) Edited July 9, 2018 by waltcmusic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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walkabout Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 It now is today. I agree... But not in 2011. Its not 2011, Walt. Don't get me wrong, I think right now (in 2018!) Ford has some of the most impressive drivetrains on the planet. I truly believe the 2.7T is the best all around engine I've ever encountered. But, a fuel sipping vehicle these beasties are not. I think that will all change with the Nautilus, 8 or 9 speed tranny, stop turnoff, and whatever other technologies they have to throw at fuel economy. I'd also love to see a hybrid powertrain in the MKX/Nautilus. This platform has HUGE potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos36 Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Re: hybrid Nautilus, the 2020 Aviator available next year will offer a plug-in hybrid powertrain that may preview a soon-to-follow Nautilus. The 2019 Nautilus available later this summer or fall will undoubtedly offer the 8 speed transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) If there's a red light ahead, I turn off cruise immediately and let it coast by itself. The "aggressive deceleration fuel cutoff" used by Ford will benefit me. This feature is not offered in BMW X3. Ah, sweet. Something I wish I had on mine. Edited June 1, 2018 by enigma-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Coasting is the key to getting good fuel economy. And you have to take your foot entirely off the throttle. Even a light pressure won't activate DFCO - at least in my unofficial testing. It amazes me how many people just stay on the throttle when they can clearly see that traffic is stopped ahead and they're going to have to stop - including my wife. Of course if I say anything she'll get mad and claim she is coasting so I just let it go. In my old neighborhood there is a 1 mile backroad going into the neighborhood. I was able to get up to 45 mph and coast the last 1/2 mile into my driveway. Cosmos36 and Timmer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKXMark Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Hypermileing is fine until you start holding up traffic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos36 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 How "aggressive" Ford's DFCO appears (to me) to be a matter of which iteration is manifested. The wife's 2010 Fusion 3.0 is AGGRESSIVE. When I road tested the Fusion prior to purchase, I thought that the car had a defective transmission that was downshifting incorrectly. Over time as I observed and understood the function, it became less of a nuisance and more of a tool. On the other hand, the MKX DFCO is so subtle that I would question whether it is really present or functioning. However, both vehicles return fuel mileage greater than EPA estimates, albeit my MPG exceed those of the wife by ~ 20-29% in the Fusion. Timmer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 How "aggressive" Ford's DFCO appears (to me) to be a matter of which iteration is manifested. The wife's 2010 Fusion 3.0 is AGGRESSIVE. When I road tested the Fusion prior to purchase, I thought that the car had a defective transmission that was downshifting incorrectly. Over time as I observed and understood the function, it became less of a nuisance and more of a tool. On the other hand, the MKX DFCO is so subtle that I would question whether it is really present or functioning. However, both vehicles return fuel mileage greater than EPA estimates, albeit my MPG exceed those of the wife by ~ 20-29% in the Fusion. Is it just me or do wives tend to view the throttle as binary - as in you have to be using the throttle to go forward until you're ready to brake. Either that or they're just not paying attention enough to see that cars are stopped ahead. You know, same way they stop in the middle of the grocery store aisle and are completely oblivious that others are trying to get by. Oh wait - did I type that out loud? CARR142 and VisionPilot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos36 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Some folks (many?) drive like they're in a tunnel oblivious to road obstacles & surrounding traffic. 'Back in the day' I occasionally commuted with a neighbor who never noted monster potholes, dogs on an intercept route approaching from curbside, apparently wasn't adept at interpreting the world around him in his vehicle's mirrors, et cetera...it almost drove me sane. VisionPilot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Is it just me or do wives tend to view the throttle as binary - as in you have to be using the throttle to go forward until you're ready to brake. Either that or they're just not paying attention enough to see that cars are stopped ahead. You know, same way they stop in the middle of the grocery store aisle and are completely oblivious that others are trying to get by. Oh wait - did I type that out loud? Your screwed. They have a sixth sense about things like this. Can't say as to what your in for, but we'll probably read about it on Facebook. I'm on there once or twice a week about things I never knew I did. akirby, Timmer and VisionPilot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmer Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Your screwed. ...we'll probably read about it on Facebook. I'm on there once or twice a week about things I never knew I did. Hahaha! Just too funny! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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