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#8016 Lincoln isn't alone when it comes to having issues

Posted by Timmer on 08 December 2016 - 01:39 PM

I'm a little over three months and 3,000 miles into my special order August '16 build MKX.


Delivery day! 


2016 MKX First Pic


Thus far my Lincoln had been just about perfect. I've not had the serious problems or quality concerns others have posted about.


And thus far, I'm very happy with my dealer, (Apple Valley Ford/Lincoln. Apple Valley, Minnesota) but I've yet to have to put them to the test of resolving a serious problem.


Prior to my MKX, I owned a 1998 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer which was built at the now closed Ford St. Louis, Missouri plant.


At 186,000 miles and 18 model years later, I traded my beloved Explorer in for the MKX.


In 18 years, the most significant repairs my Explorer needed were replacing outer tie rod ends, two brake jobs, and of course, several sets of new tires.


Final Explorer pic - Saying goodbye to a great car!


98 Ford Explorer
So I guess I've been very, very lucky with my Ford and now Lincoln vehicles.  
I'm a firm believer in calling a spade a spade.  But I think it is only fair to also point out the good as well.
In my case, (knock on wood) thus far with Ford and Lincoln it's all been good!.

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#7848 New Warning To All Ford Ecoboost Owners!

Posted by Cosmos36 on 30 November 2016 - 11:22 PM

Southerngravy...I am respectfully responding to your post only in an attempt to inform readers, not berate any. However, your post can confuse an issue with a great deal of apples & oranges.


First, the issue of coking of the intake valves of direct injection engines has nothing to do with CGI engine block materials or even whether those engines are turbo equipped or not. Direct injection induction systems feed fuel directly inside the combustion chamber thereby eliminating the intake fuel wash containing detergents that helps prevent intake valve stem coking. Again, whether the engine is turbo equipped has nothing to do with the valve coking issue which is strictly related to injector location, i.e. port injection vis-a-vis combustion chamber (direct) injection.


Second, the 2.7 gasoline  turbo direct injection engine (aka GTDI, or GDI without turbo) is not a DUAL injection engine. It is a direct injection engine (GDI) with ALL of the fuel injectors located within the combustion chambers, not a DUAL injection engine such as Ford's new 3.5 Ecoboost with 2 injectors per cylinder, one inside the combustion chamber (direct) and one in the intake manifold (port) just upstream of the intake valve outside of each combustion chamber.


Third, turbo engines derive their 'V8-equivalent power' from forced induction of the fuel-air mixture at high combustion pressures. Thus, a small displacement turbo engine uses an amount of fuel somewhat equivalent to the fuel required for a larger displacement engine to produce equivalent power. There's no free lunch in thermal dynamics.

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#5992 White Platinum Met Tri-Coat Quality Control Issues Front/Rear Bumpers?

Posted by akirby on 26 August 2016 - 10:11 AM

Click on your name in the upper right, then ignore prefs.  You can ignore posts from specific individuals.

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#8139 Glove-box Black material

Posted by walkabout on 14 December 2016 - 02:41 PM

Everything on the lower shelf of my frig has black fuzz on it too.  

That may be an entirely different issue though. 

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#8035 Using FORScan to 'tweak' the X

Posted by Adam on 09 December 2016 - 10:37 AM



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#7888 Standard Sound System

Posted by shoeguy on 04 December 2016 - 09:39 AM

Finally . A sound system more less worthy of a Lincoln. My dealer after hounding them for 6 months about the sound system finally sent a request to Lincoln to verify the sound system quality or lack thereof.  An engineer or someone from Lincoln in Oakville came and heard the system and said yup, bad head unit and amplifier. I was given an option of replacing with one that works, or having them replace at a charge for the Revel 13 speaker system. As I am not an audiophile and simply wanted a descent  and proper sounding system had them re do the basic factory system. HUGE DIFFERENCE, the system now sounds like a proper in car system with separation of sound and sound quality. Not the quality my Bose system in my SRX was , but at least close.  I am a happy camper.

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#7719 Banned?

Posted by akirby on 25 November 2016 - 08:02 PM

For that last time, nobody here has prevented anybody from documenting problems or poor dealer experiences.  I guarantee that.  And we're not going to start.


But what you're doing is coming to this forum and starting arguments and fights with anyone who dares to disagree with you, then you start attacking both me and the regular members.   You're adding nothing constructive to these discussions and you're disrupting so many topics and you don't even own a MKX.  


It's not about whether Lincoln has problems or not it's about your behavior towards other members and the moderator.

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#7693 Lincoln isn't alone when it comes to having issues

Posted by mfam16 on 25 November 2016 - 08:34 AM

Since many posts have been side tracked with concerns and comparisons, I've decided to post links to other brands and their issues from real owners (I hope this isn't a violation of forum policy)
1. Link to Jag F-Pace "Reliability is one...at 700 miles, the coolant reservoir cap malfunctioned, spilling it's contents and almost stranding us on an out-of-town trip. Now, at 1200 miles, there is a creak/knock coming from the rear suspension. A number of other buyers of the early production models have reported the same problem. It seems pervasive enough that it should have been caught during the testing phase of the vehicle. Other disappointments include "freezes" of the InControl system when playing Satellite radio, a gesture control to open the rear hatch that rarely works, finicky key-less locking, a hood/bonnet that flexes during speed. The interior is attractively/contemporary styled but has too much hard plastic in the interior and falls short in fit & finish." http://www.fpaceforu...13650?_k=ul5b2i

2. MB GL class - 2015 GLK350 21k miles, throttle lag/engine hesitation after 5-second WOT on freeway post http://mercedesforum...-freeway-56523/
Another post with concerns of transmissions sounds http://mercedesforum...d-normal-56250/

3. BMW X5 - leather wear with color change on 2016 http://www.bimmerfes...1d18e5&t=953535
Leaky roof issues http://www.bimmerfes...1d18e5&t=953318
Steering issues http://www.bimmerfes...1d18e5&t=952887
& http://www.bimmerfes...1d18e5&t=796229
Interment charging faults http://www.bimmerfes...1d18e5&t=950436

4. Lexus RX350 - vibrations and wind noise http://www.clublexus...-vibration.html
Brake issues http://www.clublexus...ht-problem.html

5. Audi Q7 - pop up screen issues http://www.audiworld...ortion-2909942/
New emission cheat discovered http://www.audiworld...overed-2909139/
Sun roof issues http://www.audiworld...result-2900249/
App shows doors & windows open even though they aren't http://www.audiworld...opened-2909912/
Concerns with gas pedals http://www.audiworld...-heavy-2909947/

So in turn I wanted to help future readers not to get distracted by the issues current Lincoln owners are having. I believe that every manufacturer has issues even though they all make great vehicles.

Some even debate if Lincoln should be considered luxury. That's debatable as the term is loosely used and associated.

One member was upset that they spent more time than they should to get a resolution. So my recommendation is to do your homework first and evaluate first hand on your own. Then either make a purchase or move on to the next brand. Everyone knows time is valuable, but don't waste it on a forum with a brand you had bad experiences with especially when you no longer own the vehicle and already spent hours getting to a resolution.

Hope this helps all current and future buyers feel comfortable with their purchase of whatever vehicle you decide on
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#7032 MKX Reserve AWD - Experiences, Questions, and Issues

Posted by mosh00 on 25 October 2016 - 09:58 AM

Last comment for the day.  I'm really loving the adaptive steering.  At slow speeds, the MKX feels so light and nimble and then it really tightens up when crusing at high speeds!


Also find the lane keeping feature to be very handy and not too obtrusive.  Does a very nice job nudging you back into your lane (my opinion anyway).


And then of course it's just gorgeous to look at!!! :)


So far, very happy with the MKX!

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#6645 Seat Comfort

Posted by Cosmos36 on 29 September 2016 - 10:03 PM

While this thread is focused on seat comfort, I'll take the (hijacking) opportunity to comment on 'Lincoln MKX pleasure'. I recently returned from a two week vacation where I rented a Nissan Sentra. Laughable yes, but I often rent vehicles with the purpose of maintaining a perspective of both (1) what's currently in my stable and (2) evaluating the difference between value products and what are marketed as upscale products. Driving one of the former often induces one to greatly appreciate the latter...been doing it for many years.


Skipping all the details the many (Ugh...OMG) Sentra's shortcomings, it is difficult to describe the contrasting pleasurable amenities of the MKX...the sensuous feel of the smooth leather steering wheel, steering response, ride comfort, interior quietness, ergonomics, powerful, commanding 2.7 turbo smoothness, quality touch controls, confidant manners, comfortable premium leather seating, entry/exit ease, engineering features (special mention of Nissan's obsolete 1970s door & trunk hinges) and many other Lincoln accolades. Of course, I recognize the $25,000 premium cost of the MKX, but dollars don't count in a purely salacious comparison.


My purchase of the MKX continues to satisfy.

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#6292 MKX VIN Tracking

Posted by mosh00 on 11 September 2016 - 02:46 PM

Hey everyone,


I'm moving the discussion Adam and I are having in the Apple CarPlay thread to a new tread so that I don't hijack that topic.  My last post in that tread was (in reference to us monitoring our VINs):


The last VIN that has a window sticker is 84543.  This is as of Friday.  One caveat to that number is I am only tracking Reserve MKX's with AWD and the optional 2.7L V6.  I built an application that monitors the URL for pulling up window stickers for all valid VIN's within a specified range.  I've got a spreadsheet of all these VINs and am logging the delivery state/country, price, interior/exterior colors, and all the options they have.  It's been real interesting to watch.  At some point soon I'm going to do some analysis on that data.  Almost every MKX Reserve has the climate package, but since I started tracking (VIN 80000 - 7/27/2016), only a handful have adaptive steering (I ordered adaptive steering).  I'm surprised by how many have the roof rails.  I didn't order those.  Also, I've gotten to the point where I think I can identify the "fleet" MKX's based on the options selected.  I tell you, I have seen some weird option combinations come through.  My plan is to track the VINs to the end of the 2016 run and hopefully will publish the spreadsheet to this forum.  :)


So if you haven't figured it out by now, I work in the IT field as a database administrator and my formal eduction is in accounting.  Very much a numbers/data/stats guy!!! LOL


My follow up comment to the above is:


As I see the numbers increase, I'll post to the forum.  As a rough estimate, it appears that Ford builds just over 1,000 MKX's a week (at least goes through that many VINs).  Since I'm not tracking all model/engine combinations of the MKX, I don't know if every VIN is actually turned into a vehicle.  I have seen some of the Reserve VINs disappear.  Not sure exactly way that happens. 


From what I can tell is that once a window sticker is created it's about a week before the MKX is actually built.  I may be wrong on that, so if someone else has more accurate info, please correct me.


Ultimately, I think I'm still on target for my MKX to be built on the 22nd.


Also, from my research and watching the recent VINs all the L8xxxx are for MKX's only.  The other Lincoln models from 2016 seem to use different ranges.  I know that Lincoln is assigned J00001 thru L99999.  Then of course all the other character's of the VIN have meanings.


Here's what I've determined and use in in VIN creation logic:


Position Description                                                                      Position      Value           Value Description

World Manufacturer Identifier                                                          1 - 3            2LM            2LM = Ford Canada - Lincoln - Multipurpose Passenger

Vehicle Restraint System Type, Brake Type, and GVWR Class           4            T                 P = With Inflatable Rear Seatbelt / T = Without 

Model                                                                                                   5            J                 J = MKX

Drive Train                                                                                            6            8                 8 = AWD / 6 = FWD

Trim Level                                                                                             7            L                 L = Reserve / K = Select / J = Premiere

Engine Type                                                                                          8            P                R = 3.7 V6 / P = 2.7 TTV6

Check Digit                                                                                           9                              Check Sum

Model Year                                                                                          10           G                G = 2016

Assembly Plant                                                                                   11           B                 B = Oakville Ontario

Production Sequence Number                                                    12 - 17           L85000      J00001 thru L99999 - Lincoln Vehicles

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#6137 How poorly painted is your black roof

Posted by rst08tierney on 01 September 2016 - 12:06 PM

SUCCESS!!!  :happy feet: 


Received the official call from Lincoln. 


They have agreed to take the vehicle back. 


I should receive full details with in the next 3 day.


Very relieved im not stuck. Looking forward to the upcoming weekend. The anchor since May 28th has finally been removed.

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#5994 White Platinum Met Tri-Coat Quality Control Issues Front/Rear Bumpers?

Posted by akirby on 26 August 2016 - 10:43 AM

What a great idea! Then I don't have to listen to your comments about my posts.


Or you could just stop injecting your bashing into every single thread.  You don't even own a MKX and you've had ample opportunities to share your bad experience.


Enough is enough.

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#2392 Hate being stonewalled

Posted by Adam on 21 October 2015 - 11:18 AM

Adaptive doesn't necessarily mean that they turn in corners.  From what I understand, the lights ARE adaptive in that their beam can be optimized based on vehicle speed and ambient light.


Regardless, I think they are very good headlamps.  Much better than the adaptive HIDs in my 2013 MKX, which I never found particularly useful when cornering, or any of my previous vehicles.


So that leaves the missing digital speedo on a DIC, which by the way cannot be compared in any way to the VW fiasco.  Lincoln didn't intentionally mislead you into anything.  It obviously wasn't there on your test drive and it hasn't been advertisesd by them at all.  It's simply a missing sub-program in the car's computer code.  If anything, it could easily be added back in a future OS update - hopefully with the option to turn off the auto-folding mirrors.


I have the feeling you have general buyer's remorse, since I think most people would see a vehicle as a whole and not get so hung up on a digital speedometer readout.  Am I disappointed about it?  Yeah, a bit, but jeepers it's a heck of a nice vehicle when you take a step back!  And it saved me some $20,000 over an X5!  As long as mine holds up mechanically, I'm happy.

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#1745 2016 loaded Ebony Red MKX in da' house!

Posted by NJRonbo on 24 August 2015 - 11:10 AM

Some more thoughts after my first long drive today...


You know, it's somewhat concerning when you switch from one auto brand to another.  I have been a faithful Cadillac leaser for the past 10 years.  I love their vehicles, I love the ride their SRX provides, and I know what to expect when I get into a new lease.


I am stepping into Lincoln for the very first time.  I drove a 2014 or 2015 MKX rental while out in Washington last year.  Thought it was nice.  I felt that Lincoln had a little less luxury material inside the vehicle, but nonetheless, it was a nice drive.


Soon after, my business partner bought a MKZ.   He was raving about it.  With my lease up and nothing new on Cadillac's horizon, I decided to take a chance on Lincoln.


So, getting back to my first long drive today...


What a remarkable driving experience the MKX offers.


A much smoother ride than the Cadillac SRX.  In fact, in comfort mode (and I haven't yet tried any of the others), it literally feels like you are floating on a cloud.  It's so unbelievably smooth that it must be experienced to be believed.  I would suspect current Lincoln owners already know the feeling.


The 22-way seats was a great addition to this vehicle.  I spoke about it in my post above, but this is really a remarkable new experience for me.  The seat inflates and almost hugs the body.  It adds a level of comfort that I have never experienced in ordinary seats.  


Also very surprising is the lane-assist feature.  It's miles ahead of what I had on the Cadillac.  At higher speeds, lane-assist actually keeps the MKX in lane.  If you even attempt to move out of lane without signaling first, the wheel forces you back into lane.  It's pretty damn neat!  Even making a fast turn through a curve, I felt as if the lane-assist kept the MKX on the road and away from moving into the shoulder lines.


The auto high beams are new to me as well.  You basically set it and forget it.  I drive at 1am in the morning to work.  My high beams are automatically on.  If another vehicle approaches me, they automatically go off.  And you know what?  The high beams also turn themselves off anytime you enter a well-lit roadway.  The minute you go into dark roads, the high beams go back on.   It works very, very well.


The Revel Audio system is as incredible as you would expect, that is, as long as you are listening to CDs or music ripped at higher bitrates.  SiriusXM is only slightly improved, depending on what channel you listen to.  Channels like HITS 1 (and most likely the classical music channels) are at higher bitrates.  They sound pretty good.  The decades channels are at lower bitrates and as such, listening to them on such a pristine sound system, brings out flaws in the satellite broadcast.   In general, satellite radio may provide superior music clarity, but it is a low bit-rate broadcast since they have to fit so many channels in a limited spectrum.


As I mentioned in my post above, this is the first vehicle I have ever had that I did not have to supplement with an additional subwoofer.  The subwoofer in this vehicle does have some noticeable "kick" to it.  And, for the first time, I can really hear channel separation that I never heard with the crappy Cadillac Bose system.  


A surprise to me was that the car tachometer shows the road's speed limit.   This was something I was not expecting.  It was not advertised in the brochure, as far as I know. I thought I read this feature would only appear during navigation guidance.   However, there it was!  The speed limit indicator did properly change as soon as I went from one roadway to another.  BRAVO!


On that note, one thing I was disappointed about -- and perhaps I have not found it -- is a digital speed readout of how fast the vehicle is currently traveling.  I hate trying to read the speed on the tachometer.  I am used to just glancing at a two-digit number on the front display.  The MKX does not seem to have this option.  Perhaps someone can enlighten me on how to find it.


I didn't think I would like not having a shift nob to go from P/D/R.   The fact I have to push buttons to DRIVE or go in REVERSE is totally new to me.  The dealer told me this concept has been around since the 50s.  Actually, I immediately got used to it.  It's really no big deal pushing the buttons.  If I had my druthers, I would have the cool knob shift technology that BMW has recently incorporated.  


It's absolutely great how this vehicle greets you as you approach it in darkness.  The logo is projected to the ground.  The door handle wells light up.  The vehicle automatically unlocks.  Once inside the vehicle, the ambient lighting comes on.  The START button becomes illuminated.  Very, very cool.


As I mentioned, the worst aspect of this vehicle is MyFord Touch.  The one thing, right off the bat that bothers me, is that this is not particularly an iPhone-friendly system.  It's no wonder as it seems that Microsoft has had a hand in designing it.  Pairing the system to my iPhone took quite a few attempts to accomplish.  There was communication errors.  When it finally paired the first time, it became unpaired the next time I entered the vehicle.  So, I had to go through the pairing process again.  Seems like the second time was a charm.  It seems to be keeping the pairing every time I enter the vehicle.


Perhaps I am wrong about this, but it doesn't seem as if MyFord Touch is pulling any contact photos off the iPhone.  So, when a phone call comes in, I am only getting the generic caller icon instead of the actual photo of the caller.   This is a HUGE problem as it only lessens the overall experience of using an iPhone with this system.  Text messages being read aloud?  Apparently that doesn't work with an iPhone either.  


If Lincoln had just put the new Sync 3 into this system, I would be looking forward to Apple Car Play integration.   Yeah, it's coming, but not in the 2015 vehicles.


That's my thoughts for now.

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#1400 2016 Lincoln MKX Production Timing

Posted by Phil M on 21 July 2015 - 04:46 AM

its here !

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#12028 The Nautilus Name and changes explained

Posted by Cosmos36 on 26 January 2018 - 01:16 AM

I attended the Portland International Auto Show today and came away with a few impressions and one decision, the latter being that I have lost interest in purchasing a  2019 Nautilus later this year. Other than a different face and an 8-speed transmission, the Nautilus doesn't offer much to make me exit my 2016 MKX which I am extremely satisfied with in most respects. I will wait to see if Lincoln steps up their game in future years.


With respect to the Lincoln display, it was a major disappointment...small, dimly lit, with one attendant, located next to the Subaru showcase. A Nautilus was exhibited with absolutely no signage, no identification, no promotion...people walked past it with no inspection or recognition whatsoever. In fact, the entire Lincoln display was occupied by myself (and spouse) and one other couple examining a current MY MKX. Nobody was even examining the 2018 Navigator. Contrast that dismal interest to hordes/throngs of people milling throughout the adjacent Subaru display (Note: I believe Oregon may be Subaru's largest customer...they have a cultural following here). Perhaps Lincoln's showing is influenced by the fact that there are only two local dealers, one of which doesn't even advertise.


Regarding other participating brands, especially those exhibited in the "Luxury Loft" (BMW, Volvo, Mercedes, Jaguar, Land Rover, etc.), it was apparent that even Lincoln Black Label models could best be described as 'Value Luxury' offerings, especially lacking the interior amenities/quality/finish of brands with competitive MSRPs. Lincoln can compete on the basis of tech, mechanical, comfort, and appearance features, but their interiors, fit/finish, & QC need improvement to match the competition. I noted that published media floor plans for the auto show indicated that Lincoln would display some models (assumedly Continental & Navigator) in the "Luxury Loft", but they were in fact absent, being consigned to the Lincoln display neighboring the Subarus.


Just another observation or two...the 'Darth Vader/predator' grills of the 2018 Lexus and other similar offerings will cost an absolute fortune to repair in the event of even the slightest mishap on the road or parking lot. Any semblance with those front ends to a functional bumper is in one's imagination. Also regarding Lexus 350RXL, the addition of a 3rd row on an unchanged wheelbase (109.8 inches) creates a cruel design joke. The 3rd row is suitable only for toddlers or a couple of bags of groceries while sacrificing fore/aft leg room for both the 1st & 2nd rows. While crowds at the show were swarming 3-row crossovers/SUVs,

some manufactures appeared to be pushing the envelope with offerings to appease some folks at the expense of 1st row drivers/passengers.


PS-Cadillac, one marque that I particularly wanted to peruse, was conspicuous by their absence...???

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#10174 Lincoln Loaner reviews

Posted by thisguy159 on 27 June 2017 - 08:03 PM

Last week had a 2017 edge....nice car some interesting storage options that could benefit mkx. Interestingly enough back of the front seat cooled better but still not great.

This week have 2017 mkx reserve. Not much changed obviously. Then infotainment system is slightly different. Home screen now shows buttons for heated/cooled seats same goes for the climate screen. There is a digital speedometer now...yay(sarcasm). The vents by the sunglasses holder is slightly different. Sunroof will slightly close when at speed to stop buffeting kinda annoying that it will not stay completely open whats the point. Similar to the way mkz 2016 worked in that matter. Oh and btw cooled seats still work like shit on the back of the front seats.

Finally not sure if just placebo effect but it seems that the trans is TC are tuned slightly differently where it gives more power during turns as opposed to comp throttling back. And finely the vent handles are rubberized now instead of just plastic.

Btw love Waze on AA.

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#10015 Air turbulence

Posted by enigma-2 on 06 June 2017 - 06:54 PM

Display stated "no SD card inserted". Clicked on find my location znd it said something about installing a SD card to use navigation.
Sound was tinny as I stated. Helped when I went to full bass and mid range. Not at all what I expected. I think the reason I commented was I never hear this on my 09, but it was horrible on tbe 16.
As for the BAMR, I did have the windows open. Your right, 1/2 open did fix the problem.

One other disappointment I found while returning the car. The screen seems to be at an angle where the sun floods the display. I was unable to read the display do to the sun washing it out, and fingerprints.

When I turned it in the agent at the service counter asked how I liked it, told him it was fine until I rolled it, pulls to the right now. Wish I had a camera to take a picture of his face. After assuring him that I actually didn't roll ut, he asked if I was returning it with a full tank. Told him I had stopped on the way back and pumped in a gallon and a half of diesel. Another picture moment. And he gurgled. It's the little things ....
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#13310 Thigh Extender

Posted by McConaughey on 20 May 2018 - 10:26 AM

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